Author Topic: The future of QB64  (Read 1466 times)

Re: The future of QB64
« Reply #45 on: November 07, 2018, 12:21:16 AM »
Totally agree with you, Pete (and the others too).

The one silver lining of VB6 dying was that I was just about to migrate from QuickBasic 7.1 to VB6, when VB6 was dropped. So while looking around for options, and using DOSbox as a temporary workaround (big performance hit), I discovered QB64.

And not just that. But the one most important computer model I developed in QuickBasic worked first time, no problems, graphics included. Damn that was great! I really had my fingers crossed. Some other programs were slightly less successful, but I managed to fix all the glitches quickly enough. (Since then, most of these have been updated to use QB64 features, so there's no going back.)

M$ used to have a really good Windows Media Center, in Windows 7, and then they became thoroughly incompetent with media, in Win10. It's amazing. They even sold (maybe still do) some sort of DVD Player in the Windows Store, and it doesn't even work! At least, not for most copyrighted material. I'd be embarrassed working there, honestly.

Ditto with Windows Live Mail. It was a very decent e-mail client, where instead, Win10 Mail is amazingly primitive. I realize you can continue to use Live Mail, but when it's dropped from the menu, sooner or later, it won't work.

I like Win10 well enough, although I have to say, some changes were quite obviously made "just for the sake of change." It's just hard to understand how M$ can deliberately show this new level of incompetence, for things like media and mail. Like they don't matter, or people don't use any of it. Pretty dumbass, if you ask me.

I guess most people know this. VLC Player is very good, for playing CDs and DVDs. They must have very good decoders, because CDs sound great. Better than they do with the Windows Media Player, last time I did a test. And VLC Player was recently updated to work with 4K monitors and High Dynamic Range (HDR). So, easy workaround.

Offline TerryRitchie

  • Semper Fidelis
Re: The future of QB64
« Reply #46 on: November 08, 2018, 04:22:04 PM »
https://www.protondb.com/

The switch to Linux is coming ... it's just a matter of time.
g=c800:5 fixes everything

Offline Pete

  • Cuz I sez so, varmint!
Re: The future of QB64
« Reply #47 on: November 08, 2018, 04:55:52 PM »
You need FreeBASIC for that...

-Linux

:D

I decided to do like that Dutch guy and change my age. I'm going to be 25 again and start my own software company, MacroHard. I'll make great non-open source software, like a QB64 that runs on all platforms, including Android. I'll call it FeeBASIC.

Pete

Re: The future of QB64
« Reply #48 on: November 12, 2018, 10:21:46 AM »
Hello everyone!

If I understand what you're talking about, soon - always too soon! - win10 will only accept programs made and controlled by it. The news makes me worry and anxiety.

It is a pious illusion to think to oppose win10. The jump of "quality" from win7 has been impressive in terms of privacy, control, management, and much, much more. It's also an ethical problem!

Linux, ubuntu and similar ...? Some operating systems is friendly, others are not, but all are difficult for those unfamiliar with computers and operating systems. In the professional field it is difficult to say to use Libreoffice rather than Office... let alone an entire operating system.

The developers of open source programs, then - forgive me if I say it - are too proud to admit that certain and exclusive cervellotic choices make their software almost unutilized and good only for convinced nerds.
Those communities are often very exclusive and sectarian societies and their usefulness in the end is almost nothing!
Oh! Of course it is not the case of QB64 which is really a family community, friendly and reasonable, always well disposed even with those who are used to asking rather than giving. A very commendable and amusing exception that makes us all participate and confident.

Microsoft has a million faults but the use of its software has always been very friendly and intuitive. Some times I tried to ask for some simplifications to software developed by certain communities and the only result was to be banned and insulted!

No ... if you really win10 - that a system with a billion problems you see and 100 billion problems that are not seen ... - will prevent third-party software from working will be the end... Also for QB64... (nooooo! I do not want this).

I really hope I'm wrong or I did not understand the problem ...



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Re: The future of QB64
« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2018, 11:26:33 AM »
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The developers of open source programs, then - forgive me if I say it - are too proud to admit that certain and exclusive cervellotic choices make their software almost unutilized and good only for convinced nerds.

cervellotic? https://meta.mathoverflow.net/questions/1888/is-a-perhaps-somewhat-cervellotic-but-not-hard-question-regarding-mathematical

« Last Edit: November 12, 2018, 11:27:45 AM by bplus »
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QB64 x 64 v1.2 2018 0228/86 git b30af92
QB64 v1.2 20180228/86 git 6fde149
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Re: The future of QB64
« Reply #50 on: November 12, 2018, 11:45:33 AM »
Sorry!
you understand well that I do not speak English ....

cervellotic = unnecessarily complicated; full of arguments that wrap themselves even if the solution would be simple (yes, from the italian language)



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Offline SMcNeill

  • QB64 Developer
Re: The future of QB64
« Reply #51 on: November 12, 2018, 05:19:19 PM »
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The English term, which we usually hear for this, would be some tense of, "obfuscate".
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Re: The future of QB64
« Reply #52 on: November 12, 2018, 11:43:23 PM »
I don't know what could possibly befuddle you guys. Cervellotic made perfect sense to me.

But Krovit, people are making worst-case scenarios here, so hopefully things won't be so bad. The reason Microsoft has been so overwhelmingly successful in the business world is that it is not a closed-in ecosystem like Apple. If they become too closed-in and greedy, it can't end well for them. People would migrate to Linux.

(In my early days of using PCs, the only thing Microsoft I was using was DOS.)

Re: The future of QB64
« Reply #53 on: November 14, 2018, 09:06:36 AM »
Thank you, Bert22306
I hope to make mistakes, but history teaches and the premises are unfavorable

Re: The future of QB64
« Reply #54 on: November 16, 2018, 04:49:40 PM »
Hi Krovit
fine your italian-English!
about
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I hope to make mistakes, but history teaches
I remember a saying only those who do nothing can not make mistakes
so mistakes teach us what to do to get mistakes and if we have memory we can go along different paths...

Re: The future of QB64
« Reply #55 on: November 30, 2018, 07:54:14 AM »
sorry... i was wrong post
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